medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number, 716. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when you put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, fwring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the fill loss pi. >> all politics a local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> let's go to something really big because i like this guy so much. this is jim webb who is retiring as the senator from virginia. he's a democrat but a different kind of democrat. many people, including me, believe he's eviscerated romney with these words he spoke.